"There is no masterplan", + Warn added for 'Paranoia'

Alright, let's talk about this issue here.. because from the perspective of a player and not an av .. I can tell you there is a very real and clear bias on the part of certain avs in this game, in the way issues are addressed between players and avs over real and factual concerns about results and a clear "pick and choose' aspect for certain things, the most recent one being Iran attacked by Russia and the United States after India deploys 64 S300 systems for the protection of Iran, now sure, maybe India gave the order not to protect Iran, but that major part of policy should have been made public in the article, "Indian AA systems refuse to protect Iran from American/Russian bombings" or something like that, with some political effects for both nations, you don't send an extremely large amount of anti-air systems only to give an order not to use them for what their intentions are.

What im asking for is consistency, which is very very lacking.

I just got warned for it too.

What I do want to say is: I and many other players have noticed a bias the entire round and I'm even hearing from players that they've spent a good deal of their time just fighting that bias instead of just actual playing. The details of this are likely very well known as I haven't kept them secret when I left as a player.

I still believe it exists and there's a difference between me playing because I like this round and because I find it important not to leave the USA hanging on 1 player.

This post has been edited by Driver on 6 February 2010, 17:57

Why are none of my Pakistan actions being touched. My Budget, My national speech and actions. or my one DPOL? I try to politely ask the avs for status and i either get a no answer or they are working on it.

*awaits the warn*

If you look at the actions you've sent in, you'll notice that there are a massive number. Between Wednesday and Friday, fifty actions were sent in. Probably twenty more by today. I assume they're working on a triage basis.

Then if that is the case the avs need to put a temp pause on the round to fix the back log or get more avs to work on the backlog.

During this round I've been labeled many things by many different players. That's inevitable, because in a game based on judgment, players will always insist it is the avatars judgment that is flawed and not their own. There is no bias what-so-ever, I simply process orders, and try to do so as coherently and accurately as possible - as does every other avatar.

I expected things like this to happen when I ran, and I always said I would give everyone their right to free speech (or free posting rather), whether the bounds of sanity. I also know I'm a big enough personality to take these criticisms, which is why this round is still running, and will still be running for many IG years to come.

Then if things stay the way that they are... You will start to see people leave SPC for other nation/political sims or leave all together.

By all means, leave.

I expect I'll see you again at the end of the week with another alt account. Perhaps this time it will be called "NOT-NUSIL".

This game has never survived a round with a conflict of anywhere near the magnitude we have seen, it's hard to manage it and things will go wrong sometimes but I'm pleased it has kept going.

What I'm trying to see is what bias or master plan is going on. Two days ago it was favor towards Iran because they managed to invade Israel, three days ago it was favor to Israel by smashing everyone, and now it's stacked against Iran with the American attack? I don't see a coherent conspiracy. Each side has suffered their ups and downs.

Ivanhoe, I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, I respect what you're doing for the game and by no means am I calling for your removal or anything else absurd like that .

I also believe that a man of such supposed incompetence as myself would be incapable of maintaining this machiavellian conspiracy, that appears to have no purpose, direction or end. I seem to be an avatar with many paradoxical traits.

You're like Jesus.

Well dude like I said you are in the position of God. And when it doesnt turn the way people want it they say that God is responsible for that.

Maybe I am, perhaps that's what everything is building up to in SPC. First the Armageddon (ME war) and then the second coming, where I shall descend from the Admin CP, remove you all from your nations and declare myself sole-ruler of planet earth (IG not IRL).

As for the round - it is very interesting to follow all the developments and at some point it is possible to make some mistakes or to forget things, but the Middle East war with all its aspects, as far as I can tell, felt real and unbiased.

As for anything within a war - if anything would go according to ones plans and strategies, both sides would actually win - and that's impossible.

I don't know, if it is just me and because I am stupid or something, but I don't see this all-over bias in the game anymore as in previous rounds. Everything appears to be well considered and with the pros and cons.

Well youre right that you dont win ever war or mission or whatever, you win some you lose some. My foundation for the whole master plan hypothesis is that entire actions and their results go missing (read: ignored). Behind the scenes Im constantly hearing other players complain about these things; often they don't want to get involved in any flame wars that for example led to me leaving the country I was playing at the time. There are multiple ex-avs in there as well who only add to my view of this.

I am fully aware that I'm complaining while I myself am not at the helm and it's increadibly easy to critisize others when youre just on the sidelines and out of the crosshairs, but from what other players tell me, from what I experience myself, from what I hear why ex-avs became just that: EX avs, I know this isn't just another round.

It has its benifits, I'll give you that, normal rounds wouldnt survive this war we've just had.

If anyone wants to come out with any specific accusations please do so. As has been witnessed by Drivers appointment as second player of the most powerful nation in the game, I won't hold it against you.

If you are the second coming of God and following the Armageddon in the Bible..... You needed to have a big battle between the forces of Good and Evil in Megiddo Israel. That is where "the final battle" was foretold in Prophecy.

I am not going to leave SPC voluntarily, so if anyone has any issues with me...... I am going to have to be site banned.

LOL!

Your like Mel Gibson in that South Park episode.



You can torture me all you want, I still won't tell you!"

"Oooh My nipples are so hard."

Well, the whole purpose of the system was an ABM shield. It should have been evident in the original article that I had given orders to ignore ANY aircraft unless it was known that they were carrying nuclear weapons (or the SAM sites were under attack).

That awnsers the issue well.

I am new here, so I dont know if my words carry any weight, but here's my two cents.

I will say that I have sent 2 actions since beginning, both were read, one was put into stone. I have yet to see anything about Dutch Patriot systems in the middle east being put on high alert in the World Broadcast. The article that I wrote and sent with the action, so that the avs could just slap it up with minimal editing still has not been added. There is little point now as the conflict is over.

I have nothing against any player here, or Ivanhoe or any av. I just assumed that it was because the war would bring in a flood of action and some things are bound to be overlooked, which I think is what happened. I was just curious why it was read, but not posted, but whatever. What has happened, happened.

I'll still play this game, It is very interesting. I was very surprised when I read that a war like this would have caused huge problems with other rounds, but I thought it went off quite well.


I guess the old saying "Shit happens" has a place here.

That and I'm fairly sure that an S300 wouldn't be able to get a lock on an F-22 or SU-39 anyway. They're some of the best planes ever made. Maybe it could- I don't know that much about SAMs and the like- but I doubt it

Neither of those were being used. My missiles could have probably shot down half of the US and Russian strike forces... but India attacking US and Russian planes would have been f%$^ing crazy...

They are still not widely used by both militaries. Especially the F-22. Dont know about the SU-29.

I can say that I try to look at actions as objective as I can and that the majority of the avs try this, this is however difficult and nearly impossible as everyone has a bias when it comes to a few subjects.

As for the statements about a master plan, I can state nothing more than this is not at all true. It is difficult to process all the actions that enter this game and for the sake of the game, some less important things might be forgotten or not posted at all. Let's take (for instance) the Netherlands placing all units on high alert and sending another action for doing the same with the patriot systems in Afghanistan. I for one believe that one single article is enough. I made a note in the ISAF forum that all patriots were on high alert as well. I however believe it is not necessary to make an article for every thing. If players want this, perhaps they should start adding more articles themselves.....

We are trying to run this show as good as we can and try our best to process as many actions as possible, but we do make errors and we too are only human. However I must state my extreme disappointment with the way people are handling this, instead of recognizing that we as avs might be very busy and we too can make mistakes due to this, people only seem to be criticizing us for things being done wrong.

People, this is a game and if you can all do this so much better, perhaps you should give up your nation and become an av. I would have preferred to play a nation, however I volunteered to let you all play this game. Yet all I (and I think all other avs as well) get in return is people complaining and falling over even the smallest things. This is not at all motivating and perhaps this has been one of the reasons why we have seen so many avs leave.

Since I have not much to do, I offer to help with anything any Mod needs. I have played a few sim games in the past, Qpawn only. But I offer to help. I do not want to see this game die off. Most of my stuff hasn't been processed either but its probably cause I am not very good at running my nation/guy. Ciao, Garak

This game has never been in a healthier position, contrary to some claims.

1) We have a good team of avatars, who are only being strained so much because of high player activity.

2) The round has survived a war that would have normally resulted in complete IC and OOC anarchy with a round restart.

3) Even people who complain all the time can't resist playing.



SPC is doing just fine, and I'm sure players will have even more fun as the round progresses and they get to see some of their long-term projects come to fruition.

Oh, people! Conspiracy theories are merely theories and if there are differences they can be sorted out in private...

So, let's live together in peace and harmony and enjoy a game, which has achieved something, that others haven't - it has left a region devastated after a nuclear war, but we still can play!